and now you know the news for this monday, july the 29th, 2013. i'm shepard smith. thanks for checking. in we're all back tomorrow, noon pacific, 3:00 eastern, right before the o'reilly factor which coincidently starts now. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> what is bill o'reilly talking about the african-american family? it's hard to take much of this race talk seriously. >> bill: al sharpton fighting back from charges he has done little to help the african-american community and, in fact, is now in business with a group that puts out vial rap garbage. we have a follow-up report tonight. >> just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should. especially without planning for one or getting married first. >> cnn anchor don lennon apparently agrees with me about some of the problems that have driving racial division. dr. ben carson on that. also tonight, bernie

goldberg, brit hume, juan and mary katharine, and carl rove. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. al sharpton and the grief just industry strike back, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. last week we told that you one of the big reasons trayvon martin lost his life was that george zimmerman feared of the image he projected that last night in florida his clothing, his presence. zimmerman profiled martin and disaster followed. the anger of this case has engendered was understandable. if trayvon martin was my son i would be doing exactly what his parents are doing. out of tragedy can become something positive that's why talking points is urging the civil rights folks to stop maligning the country and face up to huge problem that is directly

harming millions, primarily in the african-american community. young black americans are the most violent group in this country by far. the reason is the collapse of the traditional african-american family unit. 50 years ago when blacks had it much worse than they had it now 25% of black babies were born out of wedlock, today the number is close to 75%. that is catastrophic. but the civil rights industry and the white power fracture basically ignore the problem. they also he ignore the entertainment industry putting out vial products aimed at young people, some of whom incorporate the gangster culture into their own lives. on thursday we told you that al sharpton, now in business with a company that distributes garbage like lil' wayne, while sharpton says is he concerned with the state of black culture, his upcoming book will be marketed by a company cash money content that debases this country. in response to my analysis, sharpton took to the air

and did what he usually does. he attacked the messenger implying that i am racist. >> why is bill o'reilly talking about the african-american family? it's hard to take much of this race talk seriously. i took bill to restaurant in harlem in 2007. here is how he described it afterward. >> it wasn't one person in sylvias who was screaming mfer. i want more ice tea. >> please. >> everybody was -- it was like going into an italian restaurant in an all white suburb in the sense that people were sitting there and they were ordering and having fun and there wasn't any kind of craziness at all. >> bill: that sounds kind of patronizing, right? what sharpton and a number of others on msnbc did was take the radio clip from 2007 completely out of context.

here was my set up to the sylvia's comment, something that dishonest sharpton would never run. >> black people in this country understand that they have had a very, very tough go of it. and some of them can get past that, and some of them cannot. i don't think there is a black american who hasn't had a personal insult that they have had to deal with because of the color of their skin. i don't think there is one in the country. so you have got to accept that as being the truth. >> bill: does that sound antiblack to you? i continued my theme that despite racial injustice in the past, we're all americans with much in common and the marketplace is now reflecting that. i illustrated that point by talking about my dinner with sharpton at sylvia's restaurant. >> you know when sharpton and i walked in it was like a big commotion and everything and everybody was really nice. i couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between sylvia's restaurant and any other

restaurant in new york city. it was exactly the same. even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship, it was the same. and that's really what the society is all about now here in the u.s.a. there is no difference. there is no difference. >> bill: quite a different tone. sharpton and others are attacking me because i am a threat to them. they have failed, failed to deal effectively with problems in the black community and they make a lot of money by promoting racial division. huffing indignant sharpton wrapped up his assault on me this way. >> we don't just want to single out one person but we do want to set the record straight and we are not going to allow them to decide the conversation that we going to have in this country. >> bill: so who is we, al? who is we? who is them? talking points believes the day of the race hustlers is coming to an end.

this we and them business gets the country nowhere. fair-minded americans well understand there are severe problems in the black community that have to be solved. and it will take honest, courageous people to do that. one of those honest people, cnn anchor don lemon who referenced my talking points on his program. >> he has got a point. in fact, he has got more than a point. bill. >> bill: race without much structure young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hurst ling gangs. nobody forces them to do that. again, it is a personal decision. >> he is right about that, too. but, in my estimation, he doesn't go far enough. >> bill: mr. lemon went on to list things that african-americans should do to combat social problems. after his remarks, mr. lemon was predictably

attacked by the race hustlers. but his courage stands in stark contrast to their ignorance and corruption. as for al sharpton, we will leave with him saying this. >> is bill o'reilly saying george zimmerman shot trayvon martin because trayvon was born out of wedlock? even though he wasn't? that's ridiculous, right? >> bill: ridiculous, you bet, al. your day is done. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight reaction from baltimore dr. ben carson the author of the book "america the beautiful." rediscovering what made this nation great. the tide may be turning against the sharptons and the race hustlers in general. do you agree, doctor? >> i certainly hope. so i want to thank you for taking this opportunity to speak out and not being intimidated by the pc

police who think that just because you are white you can't talk about what's going on in the black community. we have to recognize that we are all in the same boat in this country and if part of the boat sinks the rest of it goes down, too. for every one of those young people that we can keep from going down that path of self-destruction, that's one less person that we have to be afraid of or protect our families from. one less person that we have to pay for in the penal system or the welfare system. one more tax-paying productive member of society who may discover a new energy source or the cure for cancer. we can't afford to throw any of those people away, particularly during this time when we only produce 70,000 engineers a a year and china produces 400,000. we have to start thinking collectively as a society and forget about all of these silly divisions. and, also, you know, i think it's tremendous that you and some other people are starting to talk about the dissolution of the family. you know, and all communities, but particularly in the black community.

and, of course, that's detrimental. of course, you know, it's leading people into places where they shouldn't be because they are not getting that solid foundation and that anchor that they need. they are not getting the values that are so important. >> bill: okay. but what you have here is you have two forces at work. you have the -- you call them the p.c. i think it's much more than that. you have an industry that makes a lot of money race hustlers people who want to divide and keep people angry. that's what you saw in the george zimmerman and trarch martin case. black manhunted. white society has contempt for black men, divide, divide, divide, divide. big money in that. lecture fees, sharpton has a tv show. all kinds of stuff. then there is the entertainment industry that puts out this vial stuff, all right, where unsupervised children, black, white, all colors, okay, they absorb this stuff. they think it's cool, they

think it's neat so they go out. it's a one-two punch and it's powerful. for me to stand up, floor lemon to stand up. for you to stand up, we are still standing up for people who will do anything to keep their money flowing and keep their power intact. it's a pretty brutal fight. >> yes, it is. we have to continue to help people to understand what's going on. >> this is part of a larger secular progressive movement that loves to divide people. divide and conquer. this is part of solenski's whole plan for changing a society. don't let any situation or any crisis go by without finding a way to exploit it, to keep people at each other's throats so they don't really see what the real problems are that are going on. we need to be using all that energy to figure out how do we improve the situation? we need those young ladies in the black community to understand that all of those babies being born out of wedlock are much more likely to grow up in poverty and that they themselves are much less

likely to finish their education. the reason that it was illegal to educate and particularly teach slaves to read is because they knew that an educated person is a liberated person. we need to start focusing on those things and forget about these artificial divisive things that are used only to empower people. >> bill: there is an awful lot of money for the forces of darkness. that's really what this thing is all about. we'll continue talking to you, doctor. we appreciate you coming on tonight. next on the run down, juan and mary katharine will react to our latest reportage on the issue. senator rand paul trying to blow up the republican party? brit human on that moments away. for pain and swelling? apply cold therapy in the first 24 hours. but not just any cold. i only use new thermacare® cold wraps. targettemp technology delivers a consistent, therapeutic cold to stop pain and start healing. new thermacare® cold wraps. a better way to treat pain.

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analyst. it was you that caused me trouble it was you i talked to. sharpton i won't use the adjective that people at msnbc are taking out of context. but the bigger picture is that i think and maybe it's just wishful thinking, these race hustlers are on the run now. i think it's over for them. do you agree? >> i do. i think you saw don lemon. i think that's a telling sign. i think also a the love the corporate types who previously thought it was cheaper to pay them off, to make a deal because they didn't want anybody calling them racist and they weren't even marching. all of a sudden those people are saying you know what? there is downside getting involved with people who are hustlers. the way the country views it more and more negative. i have got to say the fact that you are doing, this the fact that you are doing this now, that you are not afraid that you are going to get smeared and beat up, that you are willing to take the beating because you believe there is something higher here in terms of the moral authority that you can exercise, i think that's another sign. i don't think many tv people did this in the

past. >> bill: they are afraid to do it. >> that's my point. >> bill: it's bad for business to do it. >> yeah. >> bill: i'm tired of seeing black children born into and dr. carson alluded to this, born into social slavery. i'm tired of it. you know? i mean, when you are born into a chaotic family with no money, depending on government assistance, and you live in the inner city, and all you know from the time you can even look up your head is just mass chaos. >> yeah. >> bill: what chance do you have in a capitalistic competitive society. i'm tired of it and i want it addressed. what do you say mary katharine? >> i think that you and don lemon actually sort of had a break through moment here where you know you don't have to agree on everything but you can have a discussion about this here is the thing about the other side is all they want to say is either you are a racist or is he a turn coat or some kind of traitor. >> bill: i have never met

lemon but they have called him horrible, horrible names. >> right. here is the thing. where progress comes from when you actually want to help folks and not just calling them racist and questioning all their motives is it comes from unexpected alliances like that where a few brave democrats and republicans who want to work on this and get together on something like school choice and charter schools. fight the powerful unions and say look failing education is not good enough for this community and we want to help. you know, we came from those schools, juan, when you get together and you can actually solve those problems. >> yep. >> look what happens. so i think al sharpton's tell and a the lo of these guys, they don't want allies. when you came to sylvia's with him he turns around and takes that out of context and uses it against you. i'm not sure he wants an ally in the fight to work to help people. you have got to have some allowance for people disagreeing with you on certain things. >> bill: when you were growing up, you looked up to jesse jackson and these guys, right? >> oh, sure but, you know, right from the start, i remember dr. king.

jackson, you know, the whole thing. >> bill: he was with king. >> that whole association exists. all of sawedden once you start and i started covering. i covered jackson's campaign and you start to see what's going on here and you start to see it's much more of a crusade. it's not really about lifting up people, it's about, you know, in his case, the rainbow push coalition or in the case of sharpton, the national whatever. >> bill: action network. >> and these guys have these contracts and deals with these large corporations. and it's enriching them. but when it comes to addressing the core issues, when it comes to saying, hey, what is it that is holding us back? what can we do to help ourselves? taking responsibility. using the strength in the black community, talking about people in the past, dr. carson was just saying people who were slaves were denied the right to read. the idea that people who are heros, you know, you go back and just start looking you understand those people wanted responsibility. >> bill: the whole thing has gone off track, i can't

emphasize, mary katharine, the entertainment industry. >> right. >> bill: jay-z has the number one album in the country this week. lil' wayne making millions of dollars. i mean, and these guys what they are throwing out there that 8, 9, 10-year-old boys primarily are listening to, oh my god. and nobody comes after them. last word, mary katharine? >> yeah. i'm not going to get on the entertainment by itself that's a personal too. it doesn't make you act a way. when those folks come in or somebody comes in with bad messages and there is no other cultural hero to look up to and by the way barack obama has been a good substitute for that it causes a real problem. on this drug war stuff, i have been ally for al sharpton he ignores me. he ignores anybody on the right and that's not a good way to fix things. >> let me say on this you get people like snoop doggs they are pornographers they get people to say worst thing the bitchess the hos,

blacks who are highly impressionable buy into it real black man and real anger. you know what in it is a sell-out. it is totally a criminal act. bill, you better call them on it i know you are going to take some heat. i want to see if you don't back down. >> bill: you know i won't back down. >> don't you dare. >> bill: i'm doing this for 17 years. >> i have taken heat here. don't back down. >> bill: directly ahead, rand paul is not backing down. is he hurting the republican party? put that question to brit hume. later, bernie goldberg and carl rove warming up in the bullpen. we are coming right back. a plt begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ now get the unmistakable thrill... and the incredible rush... of the mercedes-benz you've always wanted.

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>> bill: personal story segment tonight, as you may know republican senator rand paul from kentucky is

a man who thinks outside the box, especially his party's becomes. in addition to opposing most american action overseas, senator paul has been very outspoken in condemning the national security agency and sticking up for the whistle blower. >> when you have rand paul actually comparing snowden to martin luther king or henry david thorough, this is madness, this is the antiwar are west leaning democrats of the 1960's that nominated george mcgovern and destroyed their party for almost 20 years. >> bill: joining us now from washington for reaction is fox news senior analyst brit hume. do you think rand paul is hurting or helping the g.o.p. >> i think the resurgence of libertarian thinking actually on in both parties is causing problems for party leaders, these people, these libertarians occupy a space on the political spectrum where right and left meet. rand paul, a republican you think about the origin of the snowden disclosures who were they done by a left

wing journalist, that's where he is. he has enough company out there that he has got a following and it's something party leaders are having to deal with. >> definitely running for president. raising money. is he going to go. we are hoping to have the senator on the program tomorrow. and his message does resonate with some conservatives we don't want a massive spy rap rat tus that is operating outside of the law which is what mr. paul believes is happening. therefore, he -- i don't know what he thinks about manny, i want to ask him tomorrow. we have got manning coming up behind you. but, you are right. i mean, the people who support snowden and manning are the far, far left. and he has common ground with them. he does reject most of their philosophy. >> well, perhaps, bill. but look at what he is -- look at where he is on this issue. i mean, this is something that has some roots in the republican party going back many decades.

and it has been a ideological struggle between those who would identify themselves as internationalist who's are not adverse necessarily to foreign exploit, and those who identify -- who would never say this but who in effect are isolationists. this is not a new argument. and it's pretty clear where senator paul is coming from. it is so-to-some extent where his father was on these issues, although i think he seems less quirky than his father always did to people. because is he a senator, he has a bigger mega phone that his father had and he is a force in the party. is he kind of an appealing guy. likeable personality, well-spoken, and he represents a school of thought, you know, you saw this dust-up he had with chris christie. chris christie representing the mainstream, was very critical of him, and, you know, ron paul was totally unabashed in his response to that. >> bill: yeah, that was about whether the united states should have a robust defense overseas and intervene in places.

>> exactly. >> bill: cleaned up like afghanistan. so christie is for that that's a traditional republican tradition where is paul is against it. so, some might say though this is healthy, to have this in the republican party to kind of shake it out because they are going to have a fight on their hands to defeat hillary clinton in 2006. -- 2016. >> that's right. if hillary clinton runs she will be associated with these obama policies that have given some -- a number, in fact, in the democratic party real pause. so, what's interesting about this is this is a problem that both parties are having simultaneously. i think the republicans probably need to have this out. and decide what kind of a party they want to be. >> bill: that's right. >> it looks like they are well on heir way to doing that. >> bill: brit, thank you. as the factor moves along this evening. we will report on a new bill to stop paying accused terrorist nidal hasan. jeanine pirro has some

thoughts on that. then, bernie goldberg on president obama saying the scandals in washington are phony. what does bernie think about that? we hope you stay tuned to those reports.

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as you may know, there are some americans sympathetic to private manning, in fact, as of july 1st, nearly $1.3 million has been donated by private individuals to defend manning. and, of course, some left wing celebrities are on the bus. >> he was deeply disturbed by what he was seeing. >> anna: intelligence analyst in iraq. he leaked documents during the war and they were enormously helpful for people on the outside to understand what the government was thinking about inside. >> i am bradley manning. >> i am bradley manning. >> i am bradley manning. >> without information, you cannot make informed decisions as a public. >> bill: you should know the group that put out that ad, courage to resist is allied with the alliance for global justice, supporter of the occupy wall street movement. the whole manning far, far left. jeanine pirro the author of the big new novel "clever

fox." what do you think is going to happen to manning? >> i think that he is going to be convicted. they will go to sentencing on wednesday, after the verdict is announced tomorrow. and i suspect that he is going to get a significant amount of time in prison. and even though they think that because is he so young and he was naive. he is really a whistleblower, they don't understand that he is not a whistleblower because that never applies to classified information. and this guy, if convicted, is guilty of the biggest locate of classified information in the history of this country. >> bill: what do you say 25 years? >> i say 30. >> bill: you say 30? >> absolutely. we are in the same place. >> bill: that's federal hard labor, right? >> yeah, it is. now, remember, bill, what's interesting is that he already pled guilty in the federal system as well. and then the military justice system, so that's not -- we want to court martial him. it's over for this guy. >> bill: okay. will he be tried? will they take him back for another trial in the civil system? >> no, no. he pled guilty. >> bill: so this is it? >> this is it. >> bill: now, a couple weeks ago the judge and i

were discussing this nidal hasan the foid shooter. despicable human being. all the while that he has beenen defending himself and he has pleaded not guilty, even though, what, 400 people saw him do it, he has been paid. >> yeah, almost $300,000. >> bill: almost $300,000. here is what we said two weeks ago. >> they should change the code somewhat that there is a power to suspend pay and then if he were acquitted, he could get the back pay. >> or, as in this case recoup it. >> bill: yeah, because we are never going to get that money back, ever. it's outrageous. the military code of justice should re-examine that, i believe. and now they are, right? >> yes. in fact, i think it was one business day after you concluded that gee, it would make sense if we just withheld his salary and they then submit a bill in the house right now. >> bill: who did that. >> tom rooney who previously served on at

foid fort hood, we can put in escrow account like you said. >> bill: right. who would be against this? >> well, they don't have a senate companion yet. >> bill: they need to get -- so in the house it's going to pass and get through. >> right. >> bill: somebody will take it up in the senate. >> i would hope. so it certainly makes a lot of sense. bill, it's not just the 300,000. the united states government has already spent close to it $4 million in this case. hasan's case. >> bill: sure. >> giving him defense even though he says he is representing himself and giving him all of the experts that he needs. and by the way, the military justice system, this crime happened in 2009. what are we waiting for? >> bill: guantanamo bay people have been there and nobody is on trial because they don't want to try them. >> exactly. >> bill: hasan, they just

delay it just like the civil justice system as well. you say they have put $4 million. >> $4 million in addition to 300,000. >> bill: do they have any money left over to execute him? i mean, are they going to have to borrow that money? because is he going. you know he is going. >> he is definitely going. here's the thing, besides executing him and he deserves to be executed, that's just my opinion. >> bill: um-huh. >> what about all of the victims because the military will not identify this as an act of terrorism, instead, it's work place violence. >> bill: 4 million wasted. you have to go through the justice system. >> i get that but the 300,000? >> bill: all right. there is the judge, everyone. buy her book. when we come right back, bernie goldberg on whether all the scandals in washington are trumped up as the president says they are. bernie is next. ok, i am coming.

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well he did say please... sir. yes he did. and thank you. yea. and thank you. he's a wonderful boy. (laughing) a do-lightful boy. please and thank you. pass it on. (crowd of children) thank you. >> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly in the weekdays with bernie segment tonight. you may remember this sound bite from last week. >> with this endless parade of distractions and political posturing and phony scandals, washington has taken its eye off the ball. and i'm here to say this needs to stop. >> bill: joining us now from north carolina to react the purveyor of bernard goldberg.com,

mr. goldberg. so, why would anyone think the president would not say that, bernie? of course he is going to say that. >> i totally agree. anybody with a pulse know what is this is about. this is a president who refuses to take responsibility for the crummy economic recovery, for the chronically high unemployment during his entire presidency. and, because he won't take responsibility for this, five years in, he can't blame george bush anymore. that dog won't hunt. so now he has figured out that it's republicans who have concocted phony scandals, that he is blaming. we all understand why he is doing it. what needs to be done, if i could just indulge in wishful thinking for 30 section seconds, what needs to be done is the next time journalists have access to the president, they need to say what phony scandals are you talking about,

mr. president. are you talking about fast and furious where a border agent was killed because a federal program got screwed up? are you talking about benghazi where four americans were slaughtered and almost a year later we still don't know what went on? are you talking about the irs scandal? because, mr. president, in may, you said that was outrageous. two and a half months later, it's a phony scandal. are you talking about going after journalists at the associated press and fox news? were they phony scandals? this -- the press has to treat this president the way they would treat ronald reagan or george w. bush. and they would never tolerate phony scandals as an excuse for failure. >> bill: what are the odds the national media will begin treating president obama. [ laughter ] >> zero. >> bill: they are never going to do it? >> that's why i said it's wishful thinking on my

part. >> bill: they have vested in his success. >> that's true. can i give you a specific example why it won't happen? a very specific example? >> bill: sure. >> media research, our friends over at the media research center did a study on how much time the networks devoted to the royal baby in just one week, abc news and nbc news in just one week devoted more than twice as much time to the royal baby as they did to the entire irs scandal and that started two and a half months ago in may. more than twice as much time in one week than they did to the irs scandal in two and a half months. cbs news was the only one that devoted more time to the scandal than the royal baby. >> that's how he gets away with this. >> bill: if the royal family is audited -- oh, they are britain.

>> that's right. >> bill: i have got to ask you this question because we promoted it all weekend. do you think the dave the race hustler is over? do you think the positive thing will come out of all of this controversy and that their credibility will be so destroyed, they be will be so marginalized that never again will they be able to, you know, mount a campaign that maligns the country? >> i'm not as hopeful as you are. it's clear that when the subject is race, not all but many black people and not all but many white people see the same thing through a different prism. you know, these things are influenced by our own experiences. and i think there are an awful lot of people, both african-americans and white liberals who listen to al sharpton and say, yeah, is he making a lot of sense and listen to you and say you're not. now, i will say that i think you are making sense and he is not and i think if the lower i can't says, economic classes of black

america followed your prescription, they would do a lot better than following the civil rights establishment's prescription. but i'm not at all convinced that sharpton and the other so-called leaders of the black america are going any place any time soon. >> bill: i don't think they are going anywhere but i think their influence is on the wane. i really do. so much trouble in places like the south side of chicago. there is is so much pain there. >> but it's also -- it's also on the wane for a very good and upbeat reason. they have succeeded. we're not in 1960 or 55 anymore. the progress has been so great that there is less for them to do than there was more martin luther king to do. >> bill: acknowledge that i'm hoping that damages their credibility. >> that's right. >> bill: thanks very much. karl rove on deck. there is a split in the republican party over obama care of all things. and then the factor tip of

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we fund obama care. now, some conservatives believe that would be a good thing. others say any attempt to deny money it to the new law would hurt the republican party because the government would shut down. joining us now from austin, texas, republican strategist karl rove and you say? >> well, first of all, let's stipulate that everybody on the republican side wants to end obama care. it is a terrible law. it's going to drive the deficit sky high. it's going to hurt american families. it's going to deny them access to quality healthcare. it's going to cause employers to drop their coverage and people who lose their jobs and their

paychecks. let's stipulate right from the beginning everybody on the republican side agrees let's get rid of the law. the question is tactically how do you do that? and there is a disagreement about that. it all circles around the issue of the continuing resolution. at the end of september, the fiscal year will end and the government, you know, the budget for fiscal year 13 ends and you have to begin funding it under a new budget year. the budget won't be in place at that time and so they will have to be what's called a continuing resolution to fund the government. there is already going to it be battle over the size of that. democrats want to spend more than the budget agreement calls for. republicans want to keep it lower at the budget -- at the level agreed to in july of 2011. and then, senator lee and several of his colleagues have a further recommendation, which is: not to have any funding at all for the obama care law in it. i think there are three problems with that. one is, first of all, is that most of obama care is

unaffected by such a maneuver. most of obama care, about 99% of it from here forward is mandatory spending and the continuing resolution will only affect the affect the discretionary budget out of the $1.5 trillion cost of obama care, it will affect less than $10 billion of spending. unlike in 1995, there's no funding for the government in place. in 1995 when we had a shut down of the government, the republican congress had already passed and the president had signed funding for half of the cost of all of the government and 100% of the cost of defense. there is no funding bill in place now so what would happen if this were to pass is that literally the first week of october there would be no paychecks for the people in the military, no people for the fbi, no paycheck for the border patrol because we haven't funded any of the government, unlike 1995. third, i think this is a political loser.

we saw how badly republicans, you know, the rule in washington is, if it happens, if something bad happen, blame the republicans. the republicans -- >> certainly the government shut down, there was no money, it would -- but the talk radio guys are framing it this way. if you oppose obama care, you have a patriotic duty not to fund it. so you've got to sabotage it any way you can or you're not a true conservative or you're not standing up for your belief system and that's the way it's being put out there. >> first of all, if being conservative doesn't mean doing something that is going to blow up in your face. i think we find every useful way to oppose obama care. senator lee, whose father was a brilliant constitutional lawyer, senator lee is well-positioned to challenge the president delaying the employer mandate.

where did he get the legal authority to take a statute for the united states and undermines the people's confidence in obama care, where does the president get the right to delay the law for a year? we ought to have an attack on that. the question is, while we're in the foxhole and in the trenches shooting at the other guys, you know, should we be taking grenades and throwing them into our own trenches? and i think this is problematic. we saw what happened in 1995 and i repeat in 1995 we had funded the republicans congress had passed and president clinton signed a bill to fund all of the military and to fund most of the rest of the government. we will go into october with zero funding. let me tell you one other thing that is really technical. >> real quick. >> this is only going to deny $10 billion in funding for obama care next year. they have money in the budget this year that they can carry over. >> discretionary money. >> yeah. so if you zero it out, they may

not be able to spend all $10 billion. they may have to give up the billion dollar ad campaign and this and that. >> mr. rove, we appreciate your point of view. thank you. tip of the day, about anthony weiner's wife, huma abedine. that is next. ipion by eating healthier, drinking plenty of water, but still not getting relief? try dulcolax laxative tablets. dulcolax is comfort-coated for gentle, over-night relief. dulcolax. predictable over-night relief you can count on. ♪

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now, to mail, bill, you have it wrong. poverty drives singer gel parent families and george zimmerman is much more of a threat to blacks than lil wayne. and i am a black and would like the professor who said poverty is the cause of the collapse of the african-american family to know that? 1930 the out of wedlock rate for blacks. good point. o'reilly, you did not give the professor a chance. you spend too much time splitting hairs. bill, pennsylvania, former marine, taught eighth grade for 17 years. you are absolutely right about intact families. when children fail in my class, 90% of the time there are not two parents participating in the

child's life. sandy and william of palm desert, california, bill, we feel the quality of the factor suffers when gutfeld and mcguirk appear. they deserve two segments and the quality would really deteriorate. charlie from henderson, nevada. bill your tip of the day about unclaimed money paid off for me. hawaii owes me a tax refund from 1994. excellent, charlie. get those tickets now. the show is going to be sold out very soon. as will the one in jacksonville, florida, on january 12th. go to unclaimed.org and missingmoney.com. check them out. hope you get paid. the tip of the day, anthony weiner's wife, little political

operative, huma aberdin is really getting linked over. people are judging her marriage, she's getting hammered on just about everything. you know what? this is wrong. miss aberdin has done nothing. it's her decision on how to deal with her husband. it's not hurting anyone. she does not deserve to be battered like this. if anyone is enjoying that spectacle, here's a tip. find out why. the whole story involving this woman is now sadistic. that's your tip of the day. that is it for us today. please check out the fox news factor website. any time, any time, word of the day, do not be a zoilist. not a loyalist. a zoilist. don't be one. again, thanks for watching tonight.

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